"Why did the The Government start using NATO AWACS when we have 33 such aircraft in the US Air Force?"
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From: Josef Hasslberger
Subject: Re: complementary enemies
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thank you for the reference below on the Shin Beth support of Terror.
would not at all wonder if that was still going on. Terror (the artificial
counterposition of interests that would otherwise be quite content to live
with each other) has been the chief instrument of geopolitics for decades
now and the Americans have refined it to an art, although the Jews of the
Zionist camp probably remain the masters.
Remember that even Bin Laden was trained for a long time by the Americans
and has been a CIA asset for decades. He was the Americans' man in
Afghanistan, leading a contingent of Saudi volunteers who fought with the
Afghanis against the Russians when it was in America's interest to get
Russia out of Afghanistan. Bin Laden's training camps were constructed by
the CIA. And even the Taliban themselves were financed by America and
received some 43 million dollars from the US as recently as in May 2001.
Justification: the "war on drugs".
Another thing: I came across an article (see at the end of this message)
that details the conclusions of professional pilots and military experts
brainstorming on the New York disaster.
>I will check out the Canadian site. A quick question:
>> Does Shin Beth, the Israeli agency similar to our FBI and CIA, still
>>financially support Islamist organizations like the FDLP, the FPLP, and
>>the MRI ("Hamas")?
>> A swiss journalist Richard Labeviere documents in "Dollars for Terror",
>>1999, pp 203 - 209 that Shin Beth has done so for decades to weaken and
>>divide the PLO, thus allowing the Likud to pursue its dream of "Greater
>>Israel". He quotes an Israeli govt. memo (later published in "Review of
>>Palestinian Studies" by Israel Shahak, #5, autumn 1982)that formalized
>>this divide-and rule geostrategic plan during the Sharon and Eitan govt.
>> As both Islamists and Zionists seek to dismantle the Arab states they
>>have thus become "complementary enemies" working together toward the same
>> I found "Dollars for Terror" fascinating.Most of it implicates U.S.
>>policy as an accessory to the Rise of Radical Islamism.
>> Alan Marty
====================article on pilots brainstorming=======================
Food for thought
THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES-
Professional Pilot re Marathon 72 Hr think
tank conducted by group of military and civilian pilots re 911 Psyop.
by Donn de Grand Pré
Oct. 23, 2001
A dedicated group of experienced civilian and military pilots, including
combat fighter pilots and commercial airline captains, just finished a
marathon 72 hours of non-stop briefings and debate over the current crisis
evolving from the use of commercial aircraft as cruise missiles against the
World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 11 September.
The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military
operation against the United States, requiring the utmost professional
military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in
timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles,
and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected
As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (world
financial center and the citadel of world strategic military planning), the
attack, from a psychological impact on the American public, equaled the
Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor 7 Dec 1941.
The over-riding question: If we are at war, who is the enemy?
The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has
infiltrated into the highest policy-making positions at the Federal level,
and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but of the troop
build-up and deployment of our military forces, including active, reserve
and National Guard units.
PRELUDE TO PANIC
The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of US property and lives was
intentionally meant to trigger a psychological and patriotic reaction on
the part of the US citizens, which is paving the way for "combined UN
activity" (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking key targets in both the
Middle East/ South Asia and the Balkans. The goal continues to be ultimate
destruction of all national sovereignty and establishment of a global
The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable
world-wide financial collapse, which can only be prevented (temporarily) by
a major war, perhaps to become known as WW 111. To bring it off (one more
time), martial law will probably be imposed in the United States.
In each of the major wars of the 20th century, the financial manipulators
(located in the City of London and New York City) had placed the US (and
much of the Western world) in a monetary expansion mode, followed by an
ever-tightening vice of a gigantic credit squeeze. We now have two ongoing
and tightly controlled simultaneous events (emanating from the two symbolic
targets of 911:
1) Alan Greenspan, Fed chairman, promising to flood the market with up to
$200 billion in FRNs and to further lower interest rates, thus bringing
about hyperinflation and dollar devaluation. Much of these multi billions
in largesse will be dumped into the coffers of Wall Street, Defense,
bankrupt airlines, insurance companies and into the willing arms of
debt-ridden third-world countries in the form of debt repudiation
(forgiveness). Call it bribery, in order to get these often reluctant
nations to join our coalition of "freedom fighters" in "the war against
2) Paul Wolfowitz, deputy Defense secretary, promised that the US will
launch "sustained military strikes against those behind the terrorist
attacks on New York and Washington". He said that the "military retaliation
would continue until the roots of terrorism are destroyed."
This bit of saber rattling was seconded by select NATO allies (especially
Britain), and by our chief ally in the Middle East, the Butcher of Beirut,
Ariel Sharon, while Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld, with the blessings
of Pres. Bush 11, is activating thousands of national guard and reservists,
not only to guard the vulnerable airports, but to do fly-overs of our
Nation's capital in F16s from the North Dakota Air Guard. Other National
Guard units are being jockeyed into potential combat "hot spots" throughout
the Middle East/South Asia and the Balkans.
WHO IS THE ENEMY?
Following is a summary of the near-unanimous views of the assembled
military and civilian pilots concerning certain critical factors relating
to the WTC/Pentagon hit of 9-11:
Troubling questions arose about the alleged pilot-hijackers of the four
aircraft, who were supposedly trained on Cessna aircraft over the past year
at fields in Florida and Oklahoma. One General officer remarked, "I
seriously question whether these novices could have located a target
dead-on 200 miles removed from takeoff point...-- much less controlled the
flight and mastered the intricacies of 11FR (instrument flight rules) --
and all accomplished in 45 minutes."
The extremely skillful maneuvering of the three aircraft at near mach
speeds, each unerringly hitting their targets, was superb. As one Air Force
officer -- a veteran of over 100 sorties over North Vietnam -- explained,
"Those birds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot in the
left seat, or they were being maneuvered by remote control."
Another pilot warned that "we had better consider whether electro-magnetic
pulse or radio frequency weapons were used from a command and control
platform hovering over the Eastern Seaboard... I'm talkin' AWACS."
Another comment: "If there was an AWACS on station over the targeted area,
did it have a Global Hawk capability? I mean, could it convert the
commercial jets to robotic flying missiles?
A hotly debated question: Who would be in command of such an Airborne
Warning and Control System (AWACS)? Were they Chinese -- Russians -- Saudis
-- Israelis -- NATO? All of these countries possess AWACS-type aircraft.
All (except the Saudis) have the capability to utilize electro-magnetic
pulsing (EMP) to knock out on-board flight controls and communications of
targeted aircraft, and then, to fly them by remote control.
One of the Air Force officers explained that we had already flown a robot
plane the size of a Boeing 737 across the Pacific to Australia -- unmanned
-- from Edwards AF13 in California to a successful landing on an Aussie
base in South Australia. It flies along a pre-programmed flight path, but
is "monitored" (controlled remotely) by a pilot from an outside station.
He explained that the London Economist (20 Sep 2001) published comments
from the former CEO of British Airways, Robert Ayling, who stated that an
aircraft could be commandeered from the ground or air and controlled
remotely in the event of a hijack.
COMMERCIAL JETS AS GUIDED MISSILES
An AP story, dateline Brussels - 7 Oct 01 --
"At Washington's request, NATO
will soon deploy surveillance aircraft for anti-terrorist operations in the
United States in response to the attacks on New York and Washington, NATO
officials said Sunday, an unprecedented use of foreign military forces to
defend the U.S. homeland."
The assembled group of pilots debated why we would ask for foreign forces
to fly AWACS over our sovereign territory when we have a fleet of 33 of
them, of which 28 are stationed in Oklahoma. The debate also centered on
whether such NATO surveillance aircraft were already here prior to 11
Could one of them have commandeered the four airliners?
There seems to be wide discrepancies between what the Federal government
isproclaiming -- and their media moguls reporting -- as opposed to the
calm and reasoned and rational views of those men who fly the planes and
defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
This writer has been a general aviation pilot since 1946. 1 have flown a
variety of single engine prop aircraft since, and installed an FAA-approved
airstrip here on my farm in 1980. Two local pilots periodically joined me
for short hops; one, a Madison County lawyer, a graduate of the Air Force
Academy, who flew for the Air Force before coming home to practice law.
The other, Kent Hill, who lives with his wife, Carol, on a farm close to
mine, is an American Airlines captain assigned to the European route. He
was a lifelong friend of "Chic" Burlingame. They were graduates of the
Naval Academy and flew F-4 Phantoms in Vietnam. Both left the Navy 28 years
ago and joined American Airlines. Both planned to retire in 2002. Chic was
the captain of AA flight 77, a Boeing 757, which departed Washington Dulles
for Los Angeles at 8:10 am on I I September, with 58 passengers and a crew
of 6. Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon at 9:41 am.
"We were totally trained on the old type of hijack," Capt Hill said, "where
you treat the hijacker cordially, punch a 4-digit code into your
transponder to alert ground control you're being hijacked, and then get him
where he wants to go, set the plane safely on the ground and let them deal
with it on the ground. However, this is a totally new situation... Not one
of the planes alerted ground control that they were being hijacked." How
"The fact is, all the transponders were turned off on the doomed flights
virtually at the same time." Look at their departure times -- two from
Logan (Boston), one from Newark, another from Dulles (Washington DC) -- all
between 8 am and 8:15.
"Shortly after climb-out to flight level, their transponders are
de-activated.. (they are no longer a blip on the radar screens). This is
something that really needs to be looked into. The only reason we turn them
off is so they don't interfere with ground systems when we land."
(Note: Transponders identify a particular aircraft in flight on the radar
screens of FAA flight controllers located throughout the country. Various
codes are punched into the transponder, one displaying, "I am being
Although there is much talk among the various flight crews, Hill says they
are not privy to any of the investigations into the events of I I
September. "We're in the dark -- very much so... They're playing it pretty
tight to the vest."
He is convinced none of the pilots had control of their aircraft when they
were flown into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The question then
becomes, who was really in control?
"Even if I had a gun at my head, I'd never fly a plane into a building. I'd
try to put it in anywhere -- a field or a river --and I'd be searing the
hell out of them (the hijackers) by flying upside down first," Hill said.
In fact, the pilot has the best weapon in his hand when threatened with
imminent death by a hijacker, namely, the airplane.
Another airline pilot stated. "On hearing a major scuffle in the cabin, the
pilot should have inverted the aircraft and the hijackers end up with
That none of the four pilots executed such a maneuver points toward the
fact that none of them had control of their aircraft, but had been
overridden by an outside force, which was flying them by remote control.
As an old and not so bold pilot, I became more convinced that the four
commercial jets were choreographed by a "conductor" from a central source,
namely an airborne warning and control system (AWACS). They have the
electronic capability to engage several aircraft simultaneously, knock out
their on-board flight controls by EMP (electro-magnetic pulsing) and assume
command and remote control of these targeted aircraft.
As we consider all the options -- and enemies -- who performed this act of
war, whether from China, Russia, Israel, an Islamic country, or from NATO,
we must also consider that the enemy may be within the gates.
If so, then we are dealing with high treason.
(Donn de Grand M, a retired Army colonel, is author of A Window on America,
Confessions of an Arms Peddler and his latest, Barbarians Inside the
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